1 00:00:19,699 --> 00:00:22,519 here's Ricky with a song that's quickly 2 00:00:22,519 --> 00:00:22,529 here's Ricky with a song that's quickly 3 00:00:22,529 --> 00:00:24,529 here's Ricky with a song that's quickly taken over the number one spot he must 4 00:00:24,529 --> 00:00:24,539 taken over the number one spot he must 5 00:00:24,539 --> 00:00:34,090 taken over the number one spot he must have been summoned his mother-in-law - 6 00:00:34,090 --> 00:00:34,100 7 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:36,560 or a joint session of Congress today 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:36,570 or a joint session of Congress today 9 00:00:36,570 --> 00:00:38,660 or a joint session of Congress today President Kennedy gave this country a 10 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:38,670 President Kennedy gave this country a 11 00:00:38,670 --> 00:00:41,540 President Kennedy gave this country a remarkable challenge I believe that this 12 00:00:41,540 --> 00:00:41,550 remarkable challenge I believe that this 13 00:00:41,550 --> 00:00:43,850 remarkable challenge I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving 14 00:00:43,850 --> 00:00:43,860 nation should commit itself to achieving 15 00:00:43,860 --> 00:00:47,090 nation should commit itself to achieving the goal before this decade is out of 16 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:47,100 the goal before this decade is out of 17 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:50,029 the goal before this decade is out of landing a man on the moon and returning 18 00:00:50,029 --> 00:00:50,039 landing a man on the moon and returning 19 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:51,410 landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth 20 00:00:51,410 --> 00:00:51,420 him safely to the earth 21 00:00:51,420 --> 00:00:59,240 him safely to the earth did you hear that that message by 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,250 did you hear that that message by 23 00:00:59,250 --> 00:01:02,930 did you hear that that message by President John F Kennedy May 25th 1961 24 00:01:02,930 --> 00:01:02,940 President John F Kennedy May 25th 1961 25 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:05,810 President John F Kennedy May 25th 1961 brings back many memories but it really 26 00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:05,820 brings back many memories but it really 27 00:01:05,820 --> 00:01:07,219 brings back many memories but it really hit home for the people of South 28 00:01:07,219 --> 00:01:07,229 hit home for the people of South 29 00:01:07,229 --> 00:01:09,200 hit home for the people of South Mississippi when the government 30 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,210 Mississippi when the government 31 00:01:09,210 --> 00:01:11,630 Mississippi when the government announced five months later to the day 32 00:01:11,630 --> 00:01:11,640 announced five months later to the day 33 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,240 announced five months later to the day that it would build a pest facility 34 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:14,250 that it would build a pest facility 35 00:01:14,250 --> 00:01:16,190 that it would build a pest facility along the banks of the East Pearl River 36 00:01:16,190 --> 00:01:16,200 along the banks of the East Pearl River 37 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,950 along the banks of the East Pearl River to test those rockets that will go into 38 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:18,960 to test those rockets that will go into 39 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:58,870 to test those rockets that will go into the moon 40 00:01:58,870 --> 00:01:58,880 41 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,900 the newspapers throughout the area 42 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:02,910 the newspapers throughout the area 43 00:02:02,910 --> 00:02:06,800 the newspapers throughout the area carried the announcement of the location 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:06,810 carried the announcement of the location 45 00:02:06,810 --> 00:02:09,859 carried the announcement of the location of the test site generally quite subtle 46 00:02:09,859 --> 00:02:09,869 of the test site generally quite subtle 47 00:02:09,869 --> 00:02:14,030 of the test site generally quite subtle community was a lovely place I was 48 00:02:14,030 --> 00:02:14,040 community was a lovely place I was 49 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,590 community was a lovely place I was somewhat familiar with the fact that 50 00:02:15,590 --> 00:02:15,600 somewhat familiar with the fact that 51 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,200 somewhat familiar with the fact that honey island swamp between the two pearl 52 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:18,210 honey island swamp between the two pearl 53 00:02:18,210 --> 00:02:21,280 honey island swamp between the two pearl rivers was was sort of a no man's land 54 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:21,290 rivers was was sort of a no man's land 55 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:24,110 rivers was was sort of a no man's land also devil swamp over to the east of the 56 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:24,120 also devil swamp over to the east of the 57 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,540 also devil swamp over to the east of the site here was most justjust in low 58 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:29,550 site here was most justjust in low 59 00:02:29,550 --> 00:02:32,630 site here was most justjust in low timberlands the original policy for 60 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:32,640 timberlands the original policy for 61 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:35,510 timberlands the original policy for acquisition of the test site was the the 62 00:02:35,510 --> 00:02:35,520 acquisition of the test site was the the 63 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,570 acquisition of the test site was the the operational area where all of the 64 00:02:38,570 --> 00:02:38,580 operational area where all of the 65 00:02:38,580 --> 00:02:41,060 operational area where all of the facilities are constructed contained 66 00:02:41,060 --> 00:02:41,070 facilities are constructed contained 67 00:02:41,070 --> 00:02:42,890 facilities are constructed contained thirteen thousand five hundred acres 68 00:02:42,890 --> 00:02:42,900 thirteen thousand five hundred acres 69 00:02:42,900 --> 00:02:45,260 thirteen thousand five hundred acres that was bought outright including the 70 00:02:45,260 --> 00:02:45,270 that was bought outright including the 71 00:02:45,270 --> 00:02:47,870 that was bought outright including the mineral interest the buffer zone which 72 00:02:47,870 --> 00:02:47,880 mineral interest the buffer zone which 73 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,120 mineral interest the buffer zone which was approximately another 120 plus 74 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,130 was approximately another 120 plus 75 00:02:50,130 --> 00:02:53,540 was approximately another 120 plus thousand acres the original policy was 76 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:53,550 thousand acres the original policy was 77 00:02:53,550 --> 00:02:56,570 thousand acres the original policy was to acquire only a perpetual restrictive 78 00:02:56,570 --> 00:02:56,580 to acquire only a perpetual restrictive 79 00:02:56,580 --> 00:02:59,330 to acquire only a perpetual restrictive easement one of the reasons this area 80 00:02:59,330 --> 00:02:59,340 easement one of the reasons this area 81 00:02:59,340 --> 00:03:00,770 easement one of the reasons this area was selected of course it was a number 82 00:03:00,770 --> 00:03:00,780 was selected of course it was a number 83 00:03:00,780 --> 00:03:02,690 was selected of course it was a number of reasons a physical reason for one 84 00:03:02,690 --> 00:03:02,700 of reasons a physical reason for one 85 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:04,699 of reasons a physical reason for one thing this marvelous River we had here 86 00:03:04,699 --> 00:03:04,709 thing this marvelous River we had here 87 00:03:04,709 --> 00:03:08,330 thing this marvelous River we had here and then low population where could you 88 00:03:08,330 --> 00:03:08,340 and then low population where could you 89 00:03:08,340 --> 00:03:10,310 and then low population where could you find that much acreage and move that 90 00:03:10,310 --> 00:03:10,320 find that much acreage and move that 91 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,770 find that much acreage and move that smaller amount of people the project was 92 00:03:12,770 --> 00:03:12,780 smaller amount of people the project was 93 00:03:12,780 --> 00:03:15,229 smaller amount of people the project was under overall management of the Marshall 94 00:03:15,229 --> 00:03:15,239 under overall management of the Marshall 95 00:03:15,239 --> 00:03:16,220 under overall management of the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville 96 00:03:16,220 --> 00:03:16,230 Space Flight Center in Huntsville 97 00:03:16,230 --> 00:03:18,320 Space Flight Center in Huntsville Alabama and the people up there we're 98 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:18,330 Alabama and the people up there we're 99 00:03:18,330 --> 00:03:20,120 Alabama and the people up there we're really excited about the selection of 100 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:20,130 really excited about the selection of 101 00:03:20,130 --> 00:03:23,270 really excited about the selection of this Pearl River area for the test site 102 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:23,280 this Pearl River area for the test site 103 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,640 this Pearl River area for the test site after all it's just a short distance 104 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:25,650 after all it's just a short distance 105 00:03:25,650 --> 00:03:27,110 after all it's just a short distance down the Pearl River and across the 106 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:27,120 down the Pearl River and across the 107 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,790 down the Pearl River and across the Inland Waterways over to the me shoe 108 00:03:28,790 --> 00:03:28,800 Inland Waterways over to the me shoe 109 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,520 Inland Waterways over to the me shoe assembly facility in New Orleans and out 110 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:31,530 assembly facility in New Orleans and out 111 00:03:31,530 --> 00:03:32,990 assembly facility in New Orleans and out out the mouth of the Pearl and around 112 00:03:32,990 --> 00:03:33,000 out the mouth of the Pearl and around 113 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,550 out the mouth of the Pearl and around the tip of Florida to Cape Canaveral 114 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:34,560 the tip of Florida to Cape Canaveral 115 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,620 the tip of Florida to Cape Canaveral where you would launch the Rockets and 116 00:03:36,620 --> 00:03:36,630 where you would launch the Rockets and 117 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:38,390 where you would launch the Rockets and even though the area was sparsely 118 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:38,400 even though the area was sparsely 119 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,620 even though the area was sparsely populated NASA did have to move five 120 00:03:42,620 --> 00:03:42,630 populated NASA did have to move five 121 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:44,360 populated NASA did have to move five communities to make way for the 122 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:44,370 communities to make way for the 123 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:47,330 communities to make way for the construction of the facility West onea 124 00:03:47,330 --> 00:03:47,340 construction of the facility West onea 125 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:51,410 construction of the facility West onea Santa Rosa Napoleon Gainesville and log 126 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:51,420 Santa Rosa Napoleon Gainesville and log 127 00:03:51,420 --> 00:04:15,969 Santa Rosa Napoleon Gainesville and log town 128 00:04:15,969 --> 00:04:15,979 129 00:04:15,979 --> 00:04:18,920 the Janesville community was a unique 130 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:18,930 the Janesville community was a unique 131 00:04:18,930 --> 00:04:21,860 the Janesville community was a unique community the loveless grocery store 132 00:04:21,860 --> 00:04:21,870 community the loveless grocery store 133 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:25,520 community the loveless grocery store mrs. Louise Lovelace who operated the 134 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:25,530 mrs. Louise Lovelace who operated the 135 00:04:25,530 --> 00:04:27,950 mrs. Louise Lovelace who operated the store with her husband was sort of a 136 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:27,960 store with her husband was sort of a 137 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,080 store with her husband was sort of a focal point in the community around the 138 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:30,090 focal point in the community around the 139 00:04:30,090 --> 00:04:31,909 focal point in the community around the corner from the grocery store 140 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:31,919 corner from the grocery store 141 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:33,710 corner from the grocery store there was a lady and I don't remember 142 00:04:33,710 --> 00:04:33,720 there was a lady and I don't remember 143 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,840 there was a lady and I don't remember her first name but she was referred to 144 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:35,850 her first name but she was referred to 145 00:04:35,850 --> 00:04:38,150 her first name but she was referred to as ain't blue her name was aunt blue 146 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:38,160 as ain't blue her name was aunt blue 147 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,860 as ain't blue her name was aunt blue Davis when we acquired her home as a lot 148 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:42,870 Davis when we acquired her home as a lot 149 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:45,620 Davis when we acquired her home as a lot of the others did she didn't have it 150 00:04:45,620 --> 00:04:45,630 of the others did she didn't have it 151 00:04:45,630 --> 00:04:48,170 of the others did she didn't have it demolished but she reserved the right to 152 00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:48,180 demolished but she reserved the right to 153 00:04:48,180 --> 00:04:52,580 demolished but she reserved the right to remove it and she had a house mover as I 154 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:52,590 remove it and she had a house mover as I 155 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:54,610 remove it and she had a house mover as I recall his name was day lead row net 156 00:04:54,610 --> 00:04:54,620 recall his name was day lead row net 157 00:04:54,620 --> 00:04:57,830 recall his name was day lead row net from the Gulfport area who loaded that 158 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:57,840 from the Gulfport area who loaded that 159 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,320 from the Gulfport area who loaded that house and took it up around the 160 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:00,330 house and took it up around the 161 00:05:00,330 --> 00:05:03,230 house and took it up around the Nicholson area and blue Davis never left 162 00:05:03,230 --> 00:05:03,240 Nicholson area and blue Davis never left 163 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,330 Nicholson area and blue Davis never left it she said on the back porch in a 164 00:05:05,330 --> 00:05:05,340 it she said on the back porch in a 165 00:05:05,340 --> 00:05:07,430 it she said on the back porch in a rocking chair and went down the highway 166 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:07,440 rocking chair and went down the highway 167 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,520 rocking chair and went down the highway with that house and I can still see that 168 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:10,530 with that house and I can still see that 169 00:05:10,530 --> 00:05:12,439 with that house and I can still see that lady today and I think she had maybe a 170 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:12,449 lady today and I think she had maybe a 171 00:05:12,449 --> 00:05:15,200 lady today and I think she had maybe a nice I believe a mrs. Freeman Davis that 172 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:15,210 nice I believe a mrs. Freeman Davis that 173 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:17,779 nice I believe a mrs. Freeman Davis that rode with her as that house went down 174 00:05:17,779 --> 00:05:17,789 rode with her as that house went down 175 00:05:17,789 --> 00:05:20,510 rode with her as that house went down the highway up over 43 to the Nicholson 176 00:05:20,510 --> 00:05:20,520 the highway up over 43 to the Nicholson 177 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,470 the highway up over 43 to the Nicholson area 178 00:05:22,470 --> 00:05:22,480 area 179 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,880 area a lot of us look on senator Stennis was 180 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:26,890 a lot of us look on senator Stennis was 181 00:05:26,890 --> 00:05:29,460 a lot of us look on senator Stennis was more of a statesman than a politician he 182 00:05:29,460 --> 00:05:29,470 more of a statesman than a politician he 183 00:05:29,470 --> 00:05:31,500 more of a statesman than a politician he told us that if any of you have any 184 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:31,510 told us that if any of you have any 185 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:32,490 told us that if any of you have any trouble dealing with the Corps of 186 00:05:32,490 --> 00:05:32,500 trouble dealing with the Corps of 187 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,050 trouble dealing with the Corps of Engineers on doing the eminent domain 188 00:05:34,050 --> 00:05:34,060 Engineers on doing the eminent domain 189 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:36,630 Engineers on doing the eminent domain you call me and I'll see what I could do 190 00:05:36,630 --> 00:05:36,640 you call me and I'll see what I could do 191 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,930 you call me and I'll see what I could do and he did help people who called him it 192 00:05:39,930 --> 00:05:39,940 and he did help people who called him it 193 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:42,030 and he did help people who called him it was a daytime meeting and the way they 194 00:05:42,030 --> 00:05:42,040 was a daytime meeting and the way they 195 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,980 was a daytime meeting and the way they handled the questions and answers they 196 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:43,990 handled the questions and answers they 197 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:46,070 handled the questions and answers they had couriers and I was one of them with 198 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:46,080 had couriers and I was one of them with 199 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,240 had couriers and I was one of them with people if they had a question they 200 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,250 people if they had a question they 201 00:05:48,250 --> 00:05:49,740 people if they had a question they wanted to ask the head to write out the 202 00:05:49,740 --> 00:05:49,750 wanted to ask the head to write out the 203 00:05:49,750 --> 00:05:52,050 wanted to ask the head to write out the question and then we would take it up to 204 00:05:52,050 --> 00:05:52,060 question and then we would take it up to 205 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:54,330 question and then we would take it up to the podium I don't know who the lady was 206 00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:54,340 the podium I don't know who the lady was 207 00:05:54,340 --> 00:05:56,970 the podium I don't know who the lady was I took her question up and her question 208 00:05:56,970 --> 00:05:56,980 I took her question up and her question 209 00:05:56,980 --> 00:05:59,660 I took her question up and her question was why do we have to go to the moon 210 00:05:59,660 --> 00:05:59,670 was why do we have to go to the moon 211 00:05:59,670 --> 00:06:01,740 was why do we have to go to the moon still at the Stennis answered that 212 00:06:01,740 --> 00:06:01,750 still at the Stennis answered that 213 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:03,270 still at the Stennis answered that question in this way he said we have to 214 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:03,280 question in this way he said we have to 215 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:05,430 question in this way he said we have to go to the moon but for international 216 00:06:05,430 --> 00:06:05,440 go to the moon but for international 217 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,090 go to the moon but for international prestige senator Stennis had another 218 00:06:09,090 --> 00:06:09,100 prestige senator Stennis had another 219 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:11,160 prestige senator Stennis had another quote that day that became rather famous 220 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:11,170 quote that day that became rather famous 221 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:13,650 quote that day that became rather famous he said there's always the thorn before 222 00:06:13,650 --> 00:06:13,660 he said there's always the thorn before 223 00:06:13,660 --> 00:06:16,410 he said there's always the thorn before the rose the thorn being eminent domain 224 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:16,420 the rose the thorn being eminent domain 225 00:06:16,420 --> 00:06:19,290 the rose the thorn being eminent domain the rose being the opportunity that 226 00:06:19,290 --> 00:06:19,300 the rose being the opportunity that 227 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:22,080 the rose being the opportunity that those people had to play a major role in 228 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:22,090 those people had to play a major role in 229 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:25,250 those people had to play a major role in America's prestigious space program I 230 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:25,260 America's prestigious space program I 231 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:28,620 America's prestigious space program I was the highly elated very proud of 232 00:06:28,620 --> 00:06:28,630 was the highly elated very proud of 233 00:06:28,630 --> 00:06:33,030 was the highly elated very proud of America I felt that night I'll tell you 234 00:06:33,030 --> 00:06:33,040 America I felt that night I'll tell you 235 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,460 America I felt that night I'll tell you why I felt that way I felt that we were 236 00:06:35,460 --> 00:06:35,470 why I felt that way I felt that we were 237 00:06:35,470 --> 00:06:37,770 why I felt that way I felt that we were part of it since we had given up our 238 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:37,780 part of it since we had given up our 239 00:06:37,780 --> 00:06:39,180 part of it since we had given up our land and move and everything that we 240 00:06:39,180 --> 00:06:39,190 land and move and everything that we 241 00:06:39,190 --> 00:07:14,189 land and move and everything that we were actually part of going to the moon 242 00:07:14,189 --> 00:07:14,199 243 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:17,770 we had the challenge of building a very 244 00:07:17,770 --> 00:07:17,780 we had the challenge of building a very 245 00:07:17,780 --> 00:07:22,270 we had the challenge of building a very large rocket test facility it was a 246 00:07:22,270 --> 00:07:22,280 large rocket test facility it was a 247 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,219 large rocket test facility it was a swamp here there wasn't anything here 248 00:07:24,219 --> 00:07:24,229 swamp here there wasn't anything here 249 00:07:24,229 --> 00:07:26,170 swamp here there wasn't anything here except the rushan house which is behind 250 00:07:26,170 --> 00:07:26,180 except the rushan house which is behind 251 00:07:26,180 --> 00:07:30,400 except the rushan house which is behind us the challenge was significant in 252 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:30,410 us the challenge was significant in 253 00:07:30,410 --> 00:07:32,589 us the challenge was significant in today's dollars that would amount to a 254 00:07:32,589 --> 00:07:32,599 today's dollars that would amount to a 255 00:07:32,599 --> 00:07:36,879 today's dollars that would amount to a billion dollar facility we have to build 256 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:36,889 billion dollar facility we have to build 257 00:07:36,889 --> 00:07:38,710 billion dollar facility we have to build it from scratch and when it was 258 00:07:38,710 --> 00:07:38,720 it from scratch and when it was 259 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,110 it from scratch and when it was completed it was going to test the 260 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:41,120 completed it was going to test the 261 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,050 completed it was going to test the awesome Saturn 5 rockets that were going 262 00:07:44,050 --> 00:07:44,060 awesome Saturn 5 rockets that were going 263 00:07:44,060 --> 00:07:45,370 awesome Saturn 5 rockets that were going to take men to the moon 264 00:07:45,370 --> 00:07:45,380 to take men to the moon 265 00:07:45,380 --> 00:07:48,490 to take men to the moon Jerry been associated with Stennis Space 266 00:07:48,490 --> 00:07:48,500 Jerry been associated with Stennis Space 267 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:51,100 Jerry been associated with Stennis Space Center for almost his entire existence 268 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:51,110 Center for almost his entire existence 269 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:54,909 Center for almost his entire existence in the Apollo days we used to see Jerry 270 00:07:54,909 --> 00:07:54,919 in the Apollo days we used to see Jerry 271 00:07:54,919 --> 00:07:56,200 in the Apollo days we used to see Jerry once a week as he flew down from 272 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:56,210 once a week as he flew down from 273 00:07:56,210 --> 00:07:58,240 once a week as he flew down from Washington where he was responsible for 274 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:58,250 Washington where he was responsible for 275 00:07:58,250 --> 00:08:00,790 Washington where he was responsible for overseeing the construction of the 276 00:08:00,790 --> 00:08:00,800 overseeing the construction of the 277 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,499 overseeing the construction of the Mississippi test facility in those days 278 00:08:02,499 --> 00:08:02,509 Mississippi test facility in those days 279 00:08:02,509 --> 00:08:05,559 Mississippi test facility in those days there were scheduled problems the s2 280 00:08:05,559 --> 00:08:05,569 there were scheduled problems the s2 281 00:08:05,569 --> 00:08:07,960 there were scheduled problems the s2 stand was a critical facility was 282 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:07,970 stand was a critical facility was 283 00:08:07,970 --> 00:08:09,249 stand was a critical facility was determined to be the most critical 284 00:08:09,249 --> 00:08:09,259 determined to be the most critical 285 00:08:09,259 --> 00:08:13,510 determined to be the most critical facility in achieving the Apollo mission 286 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:13,520 facility in achieving the Apollo mission 287 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,399 facility in achieving the Apollo mission and therefore there were lots of 288 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:15,409 and therefore there were lots of 289 00:08:15,409 --> 00:08:17,830 and therefore there were lots of pressure to complete the construction on 290 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:17,840 pressure to complete the construction on 291 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:18,550 pressure to complete the construction on schedule 292 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:18,560 schedule 293 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,580 schedule we did not know at the time what all it 294 00:08:21,580 --> 00:08:21,590 we did not know at the time what all it 295 00:08:21,590 --> 00:08:23,140 we did not know at the time what all it took and yet all that was going to take 296 00:08:23,140 --> 00:08:23,150 took and yet all that was going to take 297 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:26,589 took and yet all that was going to take to really construct and to put together 298 00:08:26,589 --> 00:08:26,599 to really construct and to put together 299 00:08:26,599 --> 00:08:28,920 to really construct and to put together the type of facility that's required to 300 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:28,930 the type of facility that's required to 301 00:08:28,930 --> 00:08:31,749 the type of facility that's required to support the space program but as time 302 00:08:31,749 --> 00:08:31,759 support the space program but as time 303 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:34,209 support the space program but as time passed and as we continue to work and 304 00:08:34,209 --> 00:08:34,219 passed and as we continue to work and 305 00:08:34,219 --> 00:08:37,420 passed and as we continue to work and continue to lay out the boundaries and 306 00:08:37,420 --> 00:08:37,430 continue to lay out the boundaries and 307 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:40,750 continue to lay out the boundaries and the foundations for construction the 308 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:40,760 the foundations for construction the 309 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,779 the foundations for construction the roads began to appear power lines begin 310 00:08:43,779 --> 00:08:43,789 roads began to appear power lines begin 311 00:08:43,789 --> 00:08:47,800 roads began to appear power lines begin to appear buildings begin to appear then 312 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:47,810 to appear buildings begin to appear then 313 00:08:47,810 --> 00:08:50,440 to appear buildings begin to appear then then it stopped coming together we had 314 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:50,450 then it stopped coming together we had 315 00:08:50,450 --> 00:08:52,449 then it stopped coming together we had to clear an awful lot of land we had to 316 00:08:52,449 --> 00:08:52,459 to clear an awful lot of land we had to 317 00:08:52,459 --> 00:08:54,220 to clear an awful lot of land we had to put in an awful lot of facilities many 318 00:08:54,220 --> 00:08:54,230 put in an awful lot of facilities many 319 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:55,720 put in an awful lot of facilities many of which were very highly technical 320 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:55,730 of which were very highly technical 321 00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:58,900 of which were very highly technical facility very high pressure systems and 322 00:08:58,900 --> 00:08:58,910 facility very high pressure systems and 323 00:08:58,910 --> 00:09:01,600 facility very high pressure systems and and liquid oxygen and hydrogen that was 324 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:01,610 and liquid oxygen and hydrogen that was 325 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:03,010 and liquid oxygen and hydrogen that was going to be required and then test 326 00:09:03,010 --> 00:09:03,020 going to be required and then test 327 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:05,050 going to be required and then test stands over to a little further the east 328 00:09:05,050 --> 00:09:05,060 stands over to a little further the east 329 00:09:05,060 --> 00:09:07,389 stands over to a little further the east of it our responsibilities for us in the 330 00:09:07,389 --> 00:09:07,399 of it our responsibilities for us in the 331 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:11,199 of it our responsibilities for us in the early days was to construct the 332 00:09:11,199 --> 00:09:11,209 early days was to construct the 333 00:09:11,209 --> 00:09:13,660 early days was to construct the facilities get it to a point to where it 334 00:09:13,660 --> 00:09:13,670 facilities get it to a point to where it 335 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:15,010 facilities get it to a point to where it could be operable 336 00:09:15,010 --> 00:09:15,020 could be operable 337 00:09:15,020 --> 00:09:17,230 could be operable and all during those days it took about 338 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:17,240 and all during those days it took about 339 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,910 and all during those days it took about three years for us to finish and 340 00:09:18,910 --> 00:09:18,920 three years for us to finish and 341 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,920 three years for us to finish and finalize all the facilities is now known 342 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:20,930 finalize all the facilities is now known 343 00:09:20,930 --> 00:09:22,470 finalize all the facilities is now known as a Stennis Space Center the 344 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:22,480 as a Stennis Space Center the 345 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,820 as a Stennis Space Center the construction activation phase brought 346 00:09:24,820 --> 00:09:24,830 construction activation phase brought 347 00:09:24,830 --> 00:09:27,490 construction activation phase brought out the very best of everyone it was 348 00:09:27,490 --> 00:09:27,500 out the very best of everyone it was 349 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:30,910 out the very best of everyone it was characterized by superb leadership dr. 350 00:09:30,910 --> 00:09:30,920 characterized by superb leadership dr. 351 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,130 characterized by superb leadership dr. Wernher von Braun director of the 352 00:09:33,130 --> 00:09:33,140 Wernher von Braun director of the 353 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:35,530 Wernher von Braun director of the Marshall Center appointed a navy captain 354 00:09:35,530 --> 00:09:35,540 Marshall Center appointed a navy captain 355 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:38,760 Marshall Center appointed a navy captain bill fortune as first project manager 356 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:38,770 bill fortune as first project manager 357 00:09:38,770 --> 00:09:41,860 bill fortune as first project manager captain fortune was highly respected by 358 00:09:41,860 --> 00:09:41,870 captain fortune was highly respected by 359 00:09:41,870 --> 00:09:44,710 captain fortune was highly respected by his employees and especially popular in 360 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:44,720 his employees and especially popular in 361 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,620 his employees and especially popular in the communities the first American flag 362 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:47,630 the communities the first American flag 363 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:50,380 the communities the first American flag to fly over this site symbolizing NASA's 364 00:09:50,380 --> 00:09:50,390 to fly over this site symbolizing NASA's 365 00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:54,040 to fly over this site symbolizing NASA's presence here was raised by Captain 366 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,050 presence here was raised by Captain 367 00:09:54,050 --> 00:09:58,000 presence here was raised by Captain fortune and dr. von Braun that event 368 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,010 fortune and dr. von Braun that event 369 00:09:58,010 --> 00:10:01,480 fortune and dr. von Braun that event brought home a reminder of dr. von Braun 370 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:01,490 brought home a reminder of dr. von Braun 371 00:10:01,490 --> 00:10:04,720 brought home a reminder of dr. von Braun early involvement with this facility he 372 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:04,730 early involvement with this facility he 373 00:10:04,730 --> 00:10:07,900 early involvement with this facility he was not merely an overseer or a visitor 374 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:07,910 was not merely an overseer or a visitor 375 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:11,800 was not merely an overseer or a visitor he was a participant in fact he often 376 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:11,810 he was a participant in fact he often 377 00:10:11,810 --> 00:10:13,780 he was a participant in fact he often referred to this South Mississippi site 378 00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:13,790 referred to this South Mississippi site 379 00:10:13,790 --> 00:10:15,220 referred to this South Mississippi site as his baby 380 00:10:15,220 --> 00:10:15,230 as his baby 381 00:10:15,230 --> 00:10:17,650 as his baby you know he was a fine gentleman and a 382 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:17,660 you know he was a fine gentleman and a 383 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:19,780 you know he was a fine gentleman and a true professional and really knew how to 384 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:19,790 true professional and really knew how to 385 00:10:19,790 --> 00:10:23,170 true professional and really knew how to get everybody a consensus to his ideas 386 00:10:23,170 --> 00:10:23,180 get everybody a consensus to his ideas 387 00:10:23,180 --> 00:10:25,900 get everybody a consensus to his ideas and how to move them forward and Carl 388 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:25,910 and how to move them forward and Carl 389 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:28,630 and how to move them forward and Carl Heinberg and Bernie Tessman his deputy 390 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:28,640 Heinberg and Bernie Tessman his deputy 391 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,480 Heinberg and Bernie Tessman his deputy were in charge of his test laboratory up 392 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:31,490 were in charge of his test laboratory up 393 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:33,910 were in charge of his test laboratory up there in Huntsville and we worked very 394 00:10:33,910 --> 00:10:33,920 there in Huntsville and we worked very 395 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,590 there in Huntsville and we worked very closely with them developing the 396 00:10:35,590 --> 00:10:35,600 closely with them developing the 397 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,769 closely with them developing the requirements for this facility Carl was 398 00:10:38,769 --> 00:10:38,779 requirements for this facility Carl was 399 00:10:38,779 --> 00:10:42,519 requirements for this facility Carl was a hard driver but a very very tough and 400 00:10:42,519 --> 00:10:42,529 a hard driver but a very very tough and 401 00:10:42,529 --> 00:10:45,579 a hard driver but a very very tough and fair man very focused on where he wanted 402 00:10:45,579 --> 00:10:45,589 fair man very focused on where he wanted 403 00:10:45,589 --> 00:10:46,449 fair man very focused on where he wanted things to go 404 00:10:46,449 --> 00:10:46,459 things to go 405 00:10:46,459 --> 00:10:49,960 things to go Tessman was a had a good personality at 406 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:49,970 Tessman was a had a good personality at 407 00:10:49,970 --> 00:10:52,540 Tessman was a had a good personality at a good sense of humor and he filled in 408 00:10:52,540 --> 00:10:52,550 a good sense of humor and he filled in 409 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:54,430 a good sense of humor and he filled in some of the people gaps but both of them 410 00:10:54,430 --> 00:10:54,440 some of the people gaps but both of them 411 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,470 some of the people gaps but both of them were fun to work with and of course we 412 00:10:56,470 --> 00:10:56,480 were fun to work with and of course we 413 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,690 were fun to work with and of course we had Henry order and gentleman named 414 00:10:58,690 --> 00:10:58,700 had Henry order and gentleman named 415 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:01,389 had Henry order and gentleman named garden art Lee was significant and 416 00:11:01,389 --> 00:11:01,399 garden art Lee was significant and 417 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:05,019 garden art Lee was significant and bringing together the focus to get this 418 00:11:05,019 --> 00:11:05,029 bringing together the focus to get this 419 00:11:05,029 --> 00:11:07,030 bringing together the focus to get this place activated with three or four 420 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:07,040 place activated with three or four 421 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,380 place activated with three or four thousand new employees coming on plus 422 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:11,390 thousand new employees coming on plus 423 00:11:11,390 --> 00:11:13,300 thousand new employees coming on plus three thousand contractors and get 424 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:13,310 three thousand contractors and get 425 00:11:13,310 --> 00:11:16,690 three thousand contractors and get things done Ken Riggs was outstanding 426 00:11:16,690 --> 00:11:16,700 things done Ken Riggs was outstanding 427 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:18,130 things done Ken Riggs was outstanding and bringing together the test 428 00:11:18,130 --> 00:11:18,140 and bringing together the test 429 00:11:18,140 --> 00:11:19,960 and bringing together the test experience and requirement to our 430 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:19,970 experience and requirement to our 431 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:22,120 experience and requirement to our planning team some people think I'm 432 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:22,130 planning team some people think I'm 433 00:11:22,130 --> 00:11:24,130 planning team some people think I'm kidding when I tell them that during the 434 00:11:24,130 --> 00:11:24,140 kidding when I tell them that during the 435 00:11:24,140 --> 00:11:26,199 kidding when I tell them that during the month of July we had to wear a jacket a 436 00:11:26,199 --> 00:11:26,209 month of July we had to wear a jacket a 437 00:11:26,209 --> 00:11:26,660 month of July we had to wear a jacket a denim 438 00:11:26,660 --> 00:11:26,670 denim 439 00:11:26,670 --> 00:11:28,910 denim jacket or some other form of jacket that 440 00:11:28,910 --> 00:11:28,920 jacket or some other form of jacket that 441 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,920 jacket or some other form of jacket that was thick enough to prevent the 442 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:30,930 was thick enough to prevent the 443 00:11:30,930 --> 00:11:32,900 was thick enough to prevent the mosquitoes from penetrating you your 444 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:32,910 mosquitoes from penetrating you your 445 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:35,990 mosquitoes from penetrating you your clothing rainy season there was a lot of 446 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:36,000 clothing rainy season there was a lot of 447 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,410 clothing rainy season there was a lot of mud and so that slowed things down when 448 00:11:39,410 --> 00:11:39,420 mud and so that slowed things down when 449 00:11:39,420 --> 00:11:41,930 mud and so that slowed things down when we excavated for the foundations that 450 00:11:41,930 --> 00:11:41,940 we excavated for the foundations that 451 00:11:41,940 --> 00:11:45,560 we excavated for the foundations that will hold 40 feet deep and so you got 452 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:45,570 will hold 40 feet deep and so you got 453 00:11:45,570 --> 00:11:47,240 will hold 40 feet deep and so you got down to where water wanted to just 454 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:47,250 down to where water wanted to just 455 00:11:47,250 --> 00:11:49,040 down to where water wanted to just bubble in the bottom and we had to put 456 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,050 bubble in the bottom and we had to put 457 00:11:49,050 --> 00:11:52,100 bubble in the bottom and we had to put in more deeper and deeper wells so that 458 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:52,110 in more deeper and deeper wells so that 459 00:11:52,110 --> 00:11:54,970 in more deeper and deeper wells so that we could pool the water table down 460 00:11:54,970 --> 00:11:54,980 we could pool the water table down 461 00:11:54,980 --> 00:11:57,500 we could pool the water table down congestion I mean there was work going 462 00:11:57,500 --> 00:11:57,510 congestion I mean there was work going 463 00:11:57,510 --> 00:12:01,280 congestion I mean there was work going on everywhere here and just lots of 464 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:01,290 on everywhere here and just lots of 465 00:12:01,290 --> 00:12:03,560 on everywhere here and just lots of activities happening simultaneously we 466 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:03,570 activities happening simultaneously we 467 00:12:03,570 --> 00:12:06,770 activities happening simultaneously we had that snow about a 10 inch snow down 468 00:12:06,770 --> 00:12:06,780 had that snow about a 10 inch snow down 469 00:12:06,780 --> 00:12:09,020 had that snow about a 10 inch snow down here in Mississippi we did have some 470 00:12:09,020 --> 00:12:09,030 here in Mississippi we did have some 471 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:11,330 here in Mississippi we did have some unusual problems during construction and 472 00:12:11,330 --> 00:12:11,340 unusual problems during construction and 473 00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:13,850 unusual problems during construction and sometimes resorted to resource the 474 00:12:13,850 --> 00:12:13,860 sometimes resorted to resource the 475 00:12:13,860 --> 00:12:16,340 sometimes resorted to resource the methods to solve them even to the point 476 00:12:16,340 --> 00:12:16,350 methods to solve them even to the point 477 00:12:16,350 --> 00:12:20,600 methods to solve them even to the point of using news to do what modern machines 478 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:20,610 of using news to do what modern machines 479 00:12:20,610 --> 00:12:23,210 of using news to do what modern machines couldn't accomplish one of the 480 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:23,220 couldn't accomplish one of the 481 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:25,100 couldn't accomplish one of the photographs taken of that activity 482 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:25,110 photographs taken of that activity 483 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:28,370 photographs taken of that activity became world-famous that picture was 484 00:12:28,370 --> 00:12:28,380 became world-famous that picture was 485 00:12:28,380 --> 00:12:32,020 became world-famous that picture was real family that picture went around 486 00:12:32,020 --> 00:12:32,030 real family that picture went around 487 00:12:32,030 --> 00:12:36,200 real family that picture went around from coast to coast they told me my boss 488 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:36,210 from coast to coast they told me my boss 489 00:12:36,210 --> 00:12:39,980 from coast to coast they told me my boss asked me say do you know how to fly our 490 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:39,990 asked me say do you know how to fly our 491 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:43,940 asked me say do you know how to fly our muse I told him yes I do it was kind of 492 00:12:43,940 --> 00:12:43,950 muse I told him yes I do it was kind of 493 00:12:43,950 --> 00:12:48,380 muse I told him yes I do it was kind of wet soggy you was kind of barking but we 494 00:12:48,380 --> 00:12:48,390 wet soggy you was kind of barking but we 495 00:12:48,390 --> 00:12:55,600 wet soggy you was kind of barking but we made 496 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:55,610 497 00:12:55,610 --> 00:13:00,530 in the spring of 1965 Jackson bolts was 498 00:13:00,530 --> 00:13:00,540 in the spring of 1965 Jackson bolts was 499 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:02,990 in the spring of 1965 Jackson bolts was appointed manager of what was soon to be 500 00:13:02,990 --> 00:13:03,000 appointed manager of what was soon to be 501 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,090 appointed manager of what was soon to be officially named the Mississippi test 502 00:13:05,090 --> 00:13:05,100 officially named the Mississippi test 503 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:08,300 officially named the Mississippi test facility and with him he brought other 504 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:08,310 facility and with him he brought other 505 00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:10,939 facility and with him he brought other leadership from Huntsville to fulfill 506 00:13:10,939 --> 00:13:10,949 leadership from Huntsville to fulfill 507 00:13:10,949 --> 00:13:13,730 leadership from Huntsville to fulfill the mission Jack Balch asked me if I 508 00:13:13,730 --> 00:13:13,740 the mission Jack Balch asked me if I 509 00:13:13,740 --> 00:13:15,920 the mission Jack Balch asked me if I would come down and be the project 510 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:15,930 would come down and be the project 511 00:13:15,930 --> 00:13:19,819 would come down and be the project manager on the s2 program it just looked 512 00:13:19,819 --> 00:13:19,829 manager on the s2 program it just looked 513 00:13:19,829 --> 00:13:21,550 manager on the s2 program it just looked like an opportunity I couldn't turn down 514 00:13:21,550 --> 00:13:21,560 like an opportunity I couldn't turn down 515 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:24,710 like an opportunity I couldn't turn down working for Jack was a real learning 516 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:24,720 working for Jack was a real learning 517 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,560 working for Jack was a real learning experience to Jack box was a unique 518 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:29,570 experience to Jack box was a unique 519 00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:32,600 experience to Jack box was a unique character a lovable man in many ways a 520 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:32,610 character a lovable man in many ways a 521 00:13:32,610 --> 00:13:36,319 character a lovable man in many ways a tough taskmaster in many ways he 522 00:13:36,319 --> 00:13:36,329 tough taskmaster in many ways he 523 00:13:36,329 --> 00:13:38,420 tough taskmaster in many ways he certainly would it would certainly would 524 00:13:38,420 --> 00:13:38,430 certainly would it would certainly would 525 00:13:38,430 --> 00:13:40,069 certainly would it would certainly would be an understatement on my part to say 526 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:40,079 be an understatement on my part to say 527 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:41,629 be an understatement on my part to say that he left an indelible mark here 528 00:13:41,629 --> 00:13:41,639 that he left an indelible mark here 529 00:13:41,639 --> 00:13:43,819 that he left an indelible mark here again he was a hard-nosed individual but 530 00:13:43,819 --> 00:13:43,829 again he was a hard-nosed individual but 531 00:13:43,829 --> 00:13:46,519 again he was a hard-nosed individual but you like Jack automatically if you like 532 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:46,529 you like Jack automatically if you like 533 00:13:46,529 --> 00:13:47,810 you like Jack automatically if you like competence because he was a very 534 00:13:47,810 --> 00:13:47,820 competence because he was a very 535 00:13:47,820 --> 00:13:52,009 competence because he was a very competent individual it was just the 536 00:13:52,009 --> 00:13:52,019 competent individual it was just the 537 00:13:52,019 --> 00:13:54,560 competent individual it was just the people more than anything people tend to 538 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:54,570 people more than anything people tend to 539 00:13:54,570 --> 00:13:56,960 people more than anything people tend to remember the hardware but it's really 540 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:56,970 remember the hardware but it's really 541 00:13:56,970 --> 00:13:58,720 remember the hardware but it's really the people that made the hardware work 542 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:58,730 the people that made the hardware work 543 00:13:58,730 --> 00:14:01,340 the people that made the hardware work there was considerable excitement in the 544 00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:01,350 there was considerable excitement in the 545 00:14:01,350 --> 00:14:03,259 there was considerable excitement in the air in those days with the anticipation 546 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:03,269 air in those days with the anticipation 547 00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:05,480 air in those days with the anticipation of building and testing the vehicles 548 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:05,490 of building and testing the vehicles 549 00:14:05,490 --> 00:14:06,920 of building and testing the vehicles that would get us to the moon people 550 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:06,930 that would get us to the moon people 551 00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:09,259 that would get us to the moon people were being trained we were learning how 552 00:14:09,259 --> 00:14:09,269 were being trained we were learning how 553 00:14:09,269 --> 00:14:11,960 were being trained we were learning how to handle large volumes of hydrogen it 554 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:11,970 to handle large volumes of hydrogen it 555 00:14:11,970 --> 00:14:15,019 to handle large volumes of hydrogen it was an exciting time for sure everything 556 00:14:15,019 --> 00:14:15,029 was an exciting time for sure everything 557 00:14:15,029 --> 00:14:16,670 was an exciting time for sure everything was out of the ground facility while we 558 00:14:16,670 --> 00:14:16,680 was out of the ground facility while we 559 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:17,870 was out of the ground facility while we were putting in cables terminating 560 00:14:17,870 --> 00:14:17,880 were putting in cables terminating 561 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:23,090 were putting in cables terminating cables s2 was getting ready to finish 562 00:14:23,090 --> 00:14:23,100 cables s2 was getting ready to finish 563 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:25,040 cables s2 was getting ready to finish out at Seal Beach and be shipped in here 564 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,050 out at Seal Beach and be shipped in here 565 00:14:25,050 --> 00:14:29,840 out at Seal Beach and be shipped in here and it was just a real beehive of 566 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:29,850 and it was just a real beehive of 567 00:14:29,850 --> 00:14:31,850 and it was just a real beehive of activity getting ready for the first 568 00:14:31,850 --> 00:14:31,860 activity getting ready for the first 569 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:35,629 activity getting ready for the first test and you remember the s2 was 570 00:14:35,629 --> 00:14:35,639 test and you remember the s2 was 571 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:38,350 test and you remember the s2 was probably the most controversial of the 572 00:14:38,350 --> 00:14:38,360 probably the most controversial of the 573 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,470 probably the most controversial of the Saturn 5 stages and that it was liquid 574 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:42,480 Saturn 5 stages and that it was liquid 575 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,769 Saturn 5 stages and that it was liquid hydrogen had a common bulkhead and 576 00:14:44,769 --> 00:14:44,779 hydrogen had a common bulkhead and 577 00:14:44,779 --> 00:14:48,740 hydrogen had a common bulkhead and expected expected a lot of problems it 578 00:14:48,740 --> 00:14:48,750 expected expected a lot of problems it 579 00:14:48,750 --> 00:14:51,740 expected expected a lot of problems it was pretty pretty difficult because we 580 00:14:51,740 --> 00:14:51,750 was pretty pretty difficult because we 581 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:53,900 was pretty pretty difficult because we were running round the clock 582 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:53,910 were running round the clock 583 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:57,800 were running round the clock no days off no it wasn't anything like a 584 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:57,810 no days off no it wasn't anything like a 585 00:14:57,810 --> 00:15:00,010 no days off no it wasn't anything like a weekend you just kept right on going 586 00:15:00,010 --> 00:15:00,020 weekend you just kept right on going 587 00:15:00,020 --> 00:15:02,750 weekend you just kept right on going coming up to the test everybody was 588 00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:02,760 coming up to the test everybody was 589 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,090 coming up to the test everybody was pretty tired but I can remember the 590 00:15:05,090 --> 00:15:05,100 pretty tired but I can remember the 591 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:07,160 pretty tired but I can remember the feeling that that they certainly wanted 592 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:07,170 feeling that that they certainly wanted 593 00:15:07,170 --> 00:15:09,440 feeling that that they certainly wanted to get it off and it wasn't any question 594 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:09,450 to get it off and it wasn't any question 595 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:10,700 to get it off and it wasn't any question about we were going to do it 596 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:10,710 about we were going to do it 597 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:13,010 about we were going to do it it took some twenty five hours after the 598 00:15:13,010 --> 00:15:13,020 it took some twenty five hours after the 599 00:15:13,020 --> 00:15:14,840 it took some twenty five hours after the blockhouse was sealed to get that test 600 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:14,850 blockhouse was sealed to get that test 601 00:15:14,850 --> 00:15:17,930 blockhouse was sealed to get that test off lots of bugs in the system things 602 00:15:17,930 --> 00:15:17,940 off lots of bugs in the system things 603 00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:19,670 off lots of bugs in the system things that had to be worked out but ultimately 604 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:19,680 that had to be worked out but ultimately 605 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,710 that had to be worked out but ultimately we weren't successful in the test was a 606 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:21,720 we weren't successful in the test was a 607 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,440 we weren't successful in the test was a major accomplishment a major milestone 608 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:23,450 major accomplishment a major milestone 609 00:15:23,450 --> 00:15:27,230 major accomplishment a major milestone and at that time they had the countdown 610 00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:27,240 and at that time they had the countdown 611 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,380 and at that time they had the countdown of the test firings on the operational 612 00:15:30,380 --> 00:15:30,390 of the test firings on the operational 613 00:15:30,390 --> 00:15:32,960 of the test firings on the operational intercom site-wide and everybody would 614 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:32,970 intercom site-wide and everybody would 615 00:15:32,970 --> 00:15:35,060 intercom site-wide and everybody would listen to the countdown and as it got to 616 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:35,070 listen to the countdown and as it got to 617 00:15:35,070 --> 00:15:37,880 listen to the countdown and as it got to the last few seconds you would if you 618 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:37,890 the last few seconds you would if you 619 00:15:37,890 --> 00:15:40,400 the last few seconds you would if you could go outside so that you can see the 620 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:40,410 could go outside so that you can see the 621 00:15:40,410 --> 00:15:54,040 could go outside so that you can see the smoke and hear it 622 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:54,050 623 00:15:54,050 --> 00:15:58,040 the rocket testing started in 1966 and 624 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:58,050 the rocket testing started in 1966 and 625 00:15:58,050 --> 00:16:00,430 the rocket testing started in 1966 and every rocket that was tested here 626 00:16:00,430 --> 00:16:00,440 every rocket that was tested here 627 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,660 every rocket that was tested here performed its mission flawlessly in 628 00:16:02,660 --> 00:16:02,670 performed its mission flawlessly in 629 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:05,450 performed its mission flawlessly in flight in freaking out meant to the moon 630 00:16:05,450 --> 00:16:05,460 flight in freaking out meant to the moon 631 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:07,990 flight in freaking out meant to the moon like all Americans I remember it well 632 00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:08,000 like all Americans I remember it well 633 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,030 like all Americans I remember it well being at home with my family keeping my 634 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:11,040 being at home with my family keeping my 635 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,710 being at home with my family keeping my kids up for all night so that they could 636 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:12,720 kids up for all night so that they could 637 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,840 kids up for all night so that they could see this historical moment and then 638 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:14,850 see this historical moment and then 639 00:16:14,850 --> 00:16:16,700 see this historical moment and then finally to see Neil Armstrong step on 640 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:16,710 finally to see Neil Armstrong step on 641 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:18,830 finally to see Neil Armstrong step on the moon and having a sense of pride 642 00:16:18,830 --> 00:16:18,840 the moon and having a sense of pride 643 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,330 the moon and having a sense of pride that I had some little small part of 644 00:16:20,330 --> 00:16:20,340 that I had some little small part of 645 00:16:20,340 --> 00:16:24,020 that I had some little small part of that although all the people here at Mt 646 00:16:24,020 --> 00:16:24,030 that although all the people here at Mt 647 00:16:24,030 --> 00:16:25,670 that although all the people here at Mt F in those days as we call it the 648 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:25,680 F in those days as we call it the 649 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,500 F in those days as we call it the Mississippi test facility felt an 650 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:27,510 Mississippi test facility felt an 651 00:16:27,510 --> 00:16:28,940 Mississippi test facility felt an enormous amount of pride in the fact 652 00:16:28,940 --> 00:16:28,950 enormous amount of pride in the fact 653 00:16:28,950 --> 00:16:42,370 enormous amount of pride in the fact that we we had a major role in 654 00:16:42,370 --> 00:16:42,380 655 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:46,100 the people at MTA and their neighbors 656 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:46,110 the people at MTA and their neighbors 657 00:16:46,110 --> 00:16:48,560 the people at MTA and their neighbors didn't have long to enjoy the laurels of 658 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:48,570 didn't have long to enjoy the laurels of 659 00:16:48,570 --> 00:16:52,250 didn't have long to enjoy the laurels of that fantastic mission even as a nation 660 00:16:52,250 --> 00:16:52,260 that fantastic mission even as a nation 661 00:16:52,260 --> 00:16:54,080 that fantastic mission even as a nation was celebrating that first lunar landing 662 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:54,090 was celebrating that first lunar landing 663 00:16:54,090 --> 00:16:56,780 was celebrating that first lunar landing an ill wind was brewing in the Gulf of 664 00:16:56,780 --> 00:16:56,790 an ill wind was brewing in the Gulf of 665 00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:59,300 an ill wind was brewing in the Gulf of Mexico that would change the destinies 666 00:16:59,300 --> 00:16:59,310 Mexico that would change the destinies 667 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:01,550 Mexico that would change the destinies of thousands of people and the 668 00:17:01,550 --> 00:17:01,560 of thousands of people and the 669 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,140 of thousands of people and the directions of the Mississippi test 670 00:17:03,140 --> 00:17:03,150 directions of the Mississippi test 671 00:17:03,150 --> 00:17:08,830 directions of the Mississippi test facility 672 00:17:08,830 --> 00:17:08,840 673 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,300 the meal came along devastated the coast 674 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:13,310 the meal came along devastated the coast 675 00:17:13,310 --> 00:17:16,220 the meal came along devastated the coast killed several of our employees damaged 676 00:17:16,220 --> 00:17:16,230 killed several of our employees damaged 677 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:19,550 killed several of our employees damaged our facilities and it was a time when 678 00:17:19,550 --> 00:17:19,560 our facilities and it was a time when 679 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,470 our facilities and it was a time when our people came together Hurricane 680 00:17:21,470 --> 00:17:21,480 our people came together Hurricane 681 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,720 our people came together Hurricane Camille focused the attention of the 682 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:23,730 Camille focused the attention of the 683 00:17:23,730 --> 00:17:27,320 Camille focused the attention of the country on this area and NASA Bogut's 684 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:27,330 country on this area and NASA Bogut's 685 00:17:27,330 --> 00:17:29,240 country on this area and NASA Bogut's back and said we want to help in this 686 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:29,250 back and said we want to help in this 687 00:17:29,250 --> 00:17:32,170 back and said we want to help in this area and NASA provided substantial help 688 00:17:32,170 --> 00:17:32,180 area and NASA provided substantial help 689 00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:35,420 area and NASA provided substantial help to the area not only by continuing the 690 00:17:35,420 --> 00:17:35,430 to the area not only by continuing the 691 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:37,490 to the area not only by continuing the operations here but in many other ways 692 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:37,500 operations here but in many other ways 693 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:39,890 operations here but in many other ways in the local community the MTF 694 00:17:39,890 --> 00:17:39,900 in the local community the MTF 695 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:42,140 in the local community the MTF management team under the leadership of 696 00:17:42,140 --> 00:17:42,150 management team under the leadership of 697 00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:45,380 management team under the leadership of Jackson Volks was engaged in a diligent 698 00:17:45,380 --> 00:17:45,390 Jackson Volks was engaged in a diligent 699 00:17:45,390 --> 00:17:48,470 Jackson Volks was engaged in a diligent search for new roads and missions even 700 00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:48,480 search for new roads and missions even 701 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,750 search for new roads and missions even before the tragedy of Camille when we 702 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:50,760 before the tragedy of Camille when we 703 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,480 before the tragedy of Camille when we started hearing about the Mississippi 704 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:53,490 started hearing about the Mississippi 705 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:56,750 started hearing about the Mississippi test facility and the fact that the 706 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:56,760 test facility and the fact that the 707 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,780 test facility and the fact that the rocket testing was phasing down here and 708 00:17:59,780 --> 00:17:59,790 rocket testing was phasing down here and 709 00:17:59,790 --> 00:18:02,540 rocket testing was phasing down here and we were asked to think of things that 710 00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:02,550 we were asked to think of things that 711 00:18:02,550 --> 00:18:04,940 we were asked to think of things that could be done here assistant center 712 00:18:04,940 --> 00:18:04,950 could be done here assistant center 713 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:08,780 could be done here assistant center director at Johnson Space Center Bob 714 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:08,790 director at Johnson Space Center Bob 715 00:18:08,790 --> 00:18:12,850 director at Johnson Space Center Bob Pollin was asked to define an activity 716 00:18:12,850 --> 00:18:12,860 Pollin was asked to define an activity 717 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:17,690 Pollin was asked to define an activity to be implemented here and he defined 718 00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:17,700 to be implemented here and he defined 719 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:20,570 to be implemented here and he defined this laboratory NASA established the 720 00:18:20,570 --> 00:18:20,580 this laboratory NASA established the 721 00:18:20,580 --> 00:18:23,630 this laboratory NASA established the earth resources laboratory at MTF and a 722 00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:23,640 earth resources laboratory at MTF and a 723 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,610 earth resources laboratory at MTF and a number of federal and state agencies 724 00:18:25,610 --> 00:18:25,620 number of federal and state agencies 725 00:18:25,620 --> 00:18:28,490 number of federal and state agencies were also invited to utilize the 726 00:18:28,490 --> 00:18:28,500 were also invited to utilize the 727 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:32,120 were also invited to utilize the facilities plan was set out to convert 728 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:32,130 facilities plan was set out to convert 729 00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:34,580 facilities plan was set out to convert the Mississippi test facility from a 730 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:34,590 the Mississippi test facility from a 731 00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:37,900 the Mississippi test facility from a single agency NASA single mission 732 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:37,910 single agency NASA single mission 733 00:18:37,910 --> 00:18:40,690 single agency NASA single mission propulsion testing to a multi-agency 734 00:18:40,690 --> 00:18:40,700 propulsion testing to a multi-agency 735 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:45,050 propulsion testing to a multi-agency multi mission federal laboratory a great 736 00:18:45,050 --> 00:18:45,060 multi mission federal laboratory a great 737 00:18:45,060 --> 00:18:48,890 multi mission federal laboratory a great shot in the arm however was in the 1970 738 00:18:48,890 --> 00:18:48,900 shot in the arm however was in the 1970 739 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:52,450 shot in the arm however was in the 1970 time frame the committee met in early 71 740 00:18:52,450 --> 00:18:52,460 time frame the committee met in early 71 741 00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:56,030 time frame the committee met in early 71 NASA decided to put the testing for the 742 00:18:56,030 --> 00:18:56,040 NASA decided to put the testing for the 743 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:37,840 NASA decided to put the testing for the space shuttle main engine here 744 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:37,850 745 00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:40,600 during his first term as administrator 746 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:40,610 during his first term as administrator 747 00:19:40,610 --> 00:19:43,930 during his first term as administrator of NASA dr. Jim Fletcher decided that 748 00:19:43,930 --> 00:19:43,940 of NASA dr. Jim Fletcher decided that 749 00:19:43,940 --> 00:19:46,810 of NASA dr. Jim Fletcher decided that the installation should be renamed and 750 00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:46,820 the installation should be renamed and 751 00:19:46,820 --> 00:19:52,020 the installation should be renamed and it's reporting changed in June of 1974 752 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:52,030 it's reporting changed in June of 1974 753 00:19:52,030 --> 00:19:55,440 it's reporting changed in June of 1974 MTF became the National Space Technology 754 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:55,450 MTF became the National Space Technology 755 00:19:55,450 --> 00:20:00,039 MTF became the National Space Technology laboratories that was in recognition of 756 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:00,049 laboratories that was in recognition of 757 00:20:00,049 --> 00:20:03,130 laboratories that was in recognition of some of the application and technology 758 00:20:03,130 --> 00:20:03,140 some of the application and technology 759 00:20:03,140 --> 00:20:05,890 some of the application and technology type projects that this facility became 760 00:20:05,890 --> 00:20:05,900 type projects that this facility became 761 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:09,430 type projects that this facility became involved in after the Apollo era I was 762 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:09,440 involved in after the Apollo era I was 763 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,799 involved in after the Apollo era I was asked if I was interested in coming down 764 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:11,809 asked if I was interested in coming down 765 00:20:11,809 --> 00:20:14,610 asked if I was interested in coming down there was a vacancy Jack Walsh has 766 00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:14,620 there was a vacancy Jack Walsh has 767 00:20:14,620 --> 00:20:19,299 there was a vacancy Jack Walsh has retired and Henry order his deputy was 768 00:20:19,299 --> 00:20:19,309 retired and Henry order his deputy was 769 00:20:19,309 --> 00:20:23,289 retired and Henry order his deputy was acting in his capacity and NASA asked me 770 00:20:23,289 --> 00:20:23,299 acting in his capacity and NASA asked me 771 00:20:23,299 --> 00:20:26,080 acting in his capacity and NASA asked me if I'd come down and lead this facility 772 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:26,090 if I'd come down and lead this facility 773 00:20:26,090 --> 00:20:29,919 if I'd come down and lead this facility and I I said yes and he served a 774 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:29,929 and I I said yes and he served a 775 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:32,409 and I I said yes and he served a distinguished period of time twelve 776 00:20:32,409 --> 00:20:32,419 distinguished period of time twelve 777 00:20:32,419 --> 00:20:35,440 distinguished period of time twelve years and really his major contribution 778 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:35,450 years and really his major contribution 779 00:20:35,450 --> 00:20:39,039 years and really his major contribution in my view was it he took this 780 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:39,049 in my view was it he took this 781 00:20:39,049 --> 00:20:40,690 in my view was it he took this installation from the fringes of 782 00:20:40,690 --> 00:20:40,700 installation from the fringes of 783 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:42,580 installation from the fringes of involvement with NASA programs to the 784 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:42,590 involvement with NASA programs to the 785 00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:45,960 involvement with NASA programs to the centerline and during Jays tenure we had 786 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:45,970 centerline and during Jays tenure we had 787 00:20:45,970 --> 00:20:48,310 centerline and during Jays tenure we had major improvements in our involvement 788 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:48,320 major improvements in our involvement 789 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,190 major improvements in our involvement with NASA relationships with other 790 00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:51,200 with NASA relationships with other 791 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,960 with NASA relationships with other centers our involvement in the program's 792 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:52,970 centers our involvement in the program's 793 00:20:52,970 --> 00:20:55,180 centers our involvement in the program's new programs were assigned to Standish 794 00:20:55,180 --> 00:20:55,190 new programs were assigned to Standish 795 00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:58,210 new programs were assigned to Standish new facilities were built Gerry's 796 00:20:58,210 --> 00:20:58,220 new facilities were built Gerry's 797 00:20:58,220 --> 00:21:00,640 new facilities were built Gerry's knowledge of NASA his leadership ability 798 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:00,650 knowledge of NASA his leadership ability 799 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:03,370 knowledge of NASA his leadership ability and his knowledge of how NASA 800 00:21:03,370 --> 00:21:03,380 and his knowledge of how NASA 801 00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:06,370 and his knowledge of how NASA headquarters in the Congress work sure 802 00:21:06,370 --> 00:21:06,380 headquarters in the Congress work sure 803 00:21:06,380 --> 00:21:08,110 headquarters in the Congress work sure did pay off for all of us here at 804 00:21:08,110 --> 00:21:08,120 did pay off for all of us here at 805 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:21,560 did pay off for all of us here at Stennis Space Center 806 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:21,570 807 00:21:21,570 --> 00:21:24,030 that was a great day it was a 808 00:21:24,030 --> 00:21:24,040 that was a great day it was a 809 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,320 that was a great day it was a recognition by NASA that this 810 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:28,330 recognition by NASA that this 811 00:21:28,330 --> 00:21:31,110 recognition by NASA that this installation is part of the family part 812 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:31,120 installation is part of the family part 813 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:34,380 installation is part of the family part of the family of NASA it was a day that 814 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:34,390 of the family of NASA it was a day that 815 00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:37,710 of the family of NASA it was a day that we honored a great Mississippian and a 816 00:21:37,710 --> 00:21:37,720 we honored a great Mississippian and a 817 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,650 we honored a great Mississippian and a great American he had a great deal to do 818 00:21:40,650 --> 00:21:40,660 great American he had a great deal to do 819 00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:42,240 great American he had a great deal to do with this place he was like the father 820 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,250 with this place he was like the father 821 00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:44,160 with this place he was like the father of this installation he worried and 822 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:44,170 of this installation he worried and 823 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:46,680 of this installation he worried and worked for its advancement in his 824 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:46,690 worked for its advancement in his 825 00:21:46,690 --> 00:21:49,140 worked for its advancement in his progress ever since it was established 826 00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:49,150 progress ever since it was established 827 00:21:49,150 --> 00:21:51,120 progress ever since it was established and he 828 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:51,130 and he 829 00:21:51,130 --> 00:21:54,120 and he in addition had not only supported the 830 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:54,130 in addition had not only supported the 831 00:21:54,130 --> 00:21:56,070 in addition had not only supported the programs that were here in Mississippi 832 00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:56,080 programs that were here in Mississippi 833 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,550 programs that were here in Mississippi but he supported the entire national 834 00:21:59,550 --> 00:21:59,560 but he supported the entire national 835 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,530 but he supported the entire national space program he felt it is the right 836 00:22:01,530 --> 00:22:01,540 space program he felt it is the right 837 00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:03,990 space program he felt it is the right program for the agency he supported 838 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:04,000 program for the agency he supported 839 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,410 program for the agency he supported Kennedy when he announced his intention 840 00:22:07,410 --> 00:22:07,420 Kennedy when he announced his intention 841 00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:10,110 Kennedy when he announced his intention to go to the moon and therefore it was a 842 00:22:10,110 --> 00:22:10,120 to go to the moon and therefore it was a 843 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:14,070 to go to the moon and therefore it was a great good feeling not only for me but 844 00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:14,080 great good feeling not only for me but 845 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,360 great good feeling not only for me but all the employees of this installation 846 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:17,370 all the employees of this installation 847 00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:20,490 all the employees of this installation we feel that Senator John Stennis got 848 00:22:20,490 --> 00:22:20,500 we feel that Senator John Stennis got 849 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:25,020 we feel that Senator John Stennis got the test site for us and I think we owe 850 00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:25,030 the test site for us and I think we owe 851 00:22:25,030 --> 00:22:29,550 the test site for us and I think we owe him a great debt of gratitude farther 852 00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:29,560 him a great debt of gratitude farther 853 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,680 him a great debt of gratitude farther his effort than that John C Stennis I 854 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:33,690 his effort than that John C Stennis I 855 00:22:33,690 --> 00:22:38,010 his effort than that John C Stennis I call Uncle John because this was his 856 00:22:38,010 --> 00:22:38,020 call Uncle John because this was his 857 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:40,920 call Uncle John because this was his second home he just loved to be out here 858 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:40,930 second home he just loved to be out here 859 00:22:40,930 --> 00:22:44,490 second home he just loved to be out here I felt like that when they changed it to 860 00:22:44,490 --> 00:22:44,500 I felt like that when they changed it to 861 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:48,780 I felt like that when they changed it to Stennis Space Center it was a long time 862 00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:48,790 Stennis Space Center it was a long time 863 00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:50,460 Stennis Space Center it was a long time coming for John Stennis because he 864 00:22:50,460 --> 00:22:50,470 coming for John Stennis because he 865 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:53,790 coming for John Stennis because he deserved everything every recognition 866 00:22:53,790 --> 00:22:53,800 deserved everything every recognition 867 00:22:53,800 --> 00:23:00,060 deserved everything every recognition has been given him through the efforts 868 00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:00,070 has been given him through the efforts 869 00:23:00,070 --> 00:23:02,760 has been given him through the efforts of Technology and through everybody 870 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:02,770 of Technology and through everybody 871 00:23:02,770 --> 00:23:07,480 of Technology and through everybody working together as a team 872 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:07,490 873 00:23:07,490 --> 00:23:11,080 you know has has grown even more and the 874 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,090 you know has has grown even more and the 875 00:23:11,090 --> 00:23:14,549 you know has has grown even more and the shuttle program seems to be moving 876 00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:14,559 shuttle program seems to be moving 877 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:18,730 shuttle program seems to be moving moving forward off moving ahead with 878 00:23:18,730 --> 00:23:18,740 moving forward off moving ahead with 879 00:23:18,740 --> 00:23:21,669 moving forward off moving ahead with tremendous strides the whole thing comes 880 00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:21,679 tremendous strides the whole thing comes 881 00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:25,090 tremendous strides the whole thing comes to roya ever since I met Roy Estes he 882 00:23:25,090 --> 00:23:25,100 to roya ever since I met Roy Estes he 883 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,250 to roya ever since I met Roy Estes he has always been the guy who could exude 884 00:23:27,250 --> 00:23:27,260 has always been the guy who could exude 885 00:23:27,260 --> 00:23:32,350 has always been the guy who could exude confidence and and everything's gonna be 886 00:23:32,350 --> 00:23:32,360 confidence and and everything's gonna be 887 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:35,140 confidence and and everything's gonna be alright hang in there well the people 888 00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:35,150 alright hang in there well the people 889 00:23:35,150 --> 00:23:37,060 alright hang in there well the people the team but Stennis Space Center have 890 00:23:37,060 --> 00:23:37,070 the team but Stennis Space Center have 891 00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:40,240 the team but Stennis Space Center have have made substantial successes in the 892 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:40,250 have made substantial successes in the 893 00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:44,919 have made substantial successes in the last few years and largely I think 894 00:23:44,919 --> 00:23:44,929 last few years and largely I think 895 00:23:44,929 --> 00:23:47,110 last few years and largely I think because of the foundations that were 896 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:47,120 because of the foundations that were 897 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:51,040 because of the foundations that were laid by those who came before us and we 898 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:51,050 laid by those who came before us and we 899 00:23:51,050 --> 00:23:52,750 laid by those who came before us and we have been successful in carrying through 900 00:23:52,750 --> 00:23:52,760 have been successful in carrying through 901 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,850 have been successful in carrying through those with tremendous amount of support 902 00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:54,860 those with tremendous amount of support 903 00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:56,860 those with tremendous amount of support from NASA headquarters 904 00:23:56,860 --> 00:23:56,870 from NASA headquarters 905 00:23:56,870 --> 00:24:01,240 from NASA headquarters starting with Admiral truly JR Thompson 906 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:01,250 starting with Admiral truly JR Thompson 907 00:24:01,250 --> 00:24:04,450 starting with Admiral truly JR Thompson dr. Lenoir all have been very strong 908 00:24:04,450 --> 00:24:04,460 dr. Lenoir all have been very strong 909 00:24:04,460 --> 00:24:06,940 dr. Lenoir all have been very strong supporters of the emerging extended 910 00:24:06,940 --> 00:24:06,950 supporters of the emerging extended 911 00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:07,660 supporters of the emerging extended Space Center 912 00:24:07,660 --> 00:24:07,670 Space Center 913 00:24:07,670 --> 00:24:10,390 Space Center everybody from the people who gave up 914 00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:10,400 everybody from the people who gave up 915 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,690 everybody from the people who gave up their land to the technicians engineers 916 00:24:12,690 --> 00:24:12,700 their land to the technicians engineers 917 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:15,910 their land to the technicians engineers businesspeople everybody who's had a 918 00:24:15,910 --> 00:24:15,920 businesspeople everybody who's had a 919 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,630 businesspeople everybody who's had a part of this it has made in my view a 920 00:24:19,630 --> 00:24:19,640 part of this it has made in my view a 921 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,810 part of this it has made in my view a major contribution to the country's 922 00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:21,820 major contribution to the country's 923 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:25,630 major contribution to the country's success in space and the people of South 924 00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:25,640 success in space and the people of South 925 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,870 success in space and the people of South Mississippi of South Louisiana that work 926 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:28,880 Mississippi of South Louisiana that work 927 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,840 Mississippi of South Louisiana that work here have been the secret to their 928 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:31,850 here have been the secret to their 929 00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:52,850 here have been the secret to their success 930 00:24:52,850 --> 00:24:52,860 931 00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:54,920 you